doi:10.7916/d8-qxxg-z659Oral history interview with Dudley Horner, 1999Horner, Dudleyoral historiesmixed materialHuman rights workers--South AfricaEducators--South AfricaCollege students, Black--South AfricaPoverty--South AfricaHorner, DudleyWilson, Francis, 1939-South African Institute of Race Relations. Archives DeptUniversity of Cape Town. Southern Africa Labour and Development Research UnitCarnegie Corporation of New YorkCarnegie Inquiry into Poverty and Development in Southern AfricaUprooting poverty, the South African challengeChildhood and education: raised in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa, student movement, move to England early 1960s, return to Johannesburg, interaction with individuals banned by the government; career: archivist for the South African Institute of Race Relations; interest in labor relations; work with South Africa Labor and Development Research Unit [SALDRU], 1975-: colleagueship with director Francis Wilson, training social science students and returning scholars from exile, initial funding from the Anglo-American Chairman's Fund and the Ford Foundation, political effects of the First Carnegie Inquiry into Poverty and Development in Southern Africa, training black student interns to develop research skills; SALDRU's contribution to the Second Carnegie Inquiry into Poverty and Development in Southern Africa: frustration of data collection without intervention, importance of distinction between rural and urban poverty; effects of study; Francis Wilson's summation of the study, Uprooting Poverty: The South African Challenge; appointment to chair the South African Wage Board