doi:10.7916/ezqt-6k95Oral history interview with Charles Gati, 2016Gati, Charlesoral historiesmixed materialCollege teachersArea studiesSoviet Union Relations United StatesUnited States Relations Soviet UnionSoviet Union Study and teachingGati, CharlesShulman, Marshall DarrowBrzeziński, ZbigniewHarriman InstituteGati discusses in detail the interpersonal dynamic between two major Harriman Institute figures, Marshall Shulman and Zbigniew Brzezinski, and the eventual fraying of that relationship. Gati cites a number of instances of policy influence stemming from Harriman figures, including Brzezinski's and Shulman's roles in the Carter administration and Gati's own regular informal communication with the State Department throughout the late 1980s and early 1990s. Gati is a strong proponent of area studies approaches, and he analyzes what he believes is a decline based on diminished resources. Gati also expresses concerns about the politics of human rights studies