doi:10.7916/htqp-yf14Oral history interview with Herbert Kleber, 2015Kleber, Herbert Doral historiesmixed materialCollege teachersDrug abuse--Treatment--United StatesDrug abuse--Treatment--New York (State)NaloxoneTherapeutic communitiesSubstance abuse--TreatmentKleber, Herbert DPhoenix House (Organization)Narcotic FarmHerbert Kleber describes his experience working at the "narcotics farm" in Lexington, Kentucky after completing his residency at Yale University. He then describes his return to Yale with a heightened interest in exploring pharmaceutical treatments for addiction, such as Naloxone. Kleber moves on to his tenure as the Deputy for Demand Reductions in George H. W. Bush's White House. Particular attention is given here to his struggle to secure more government support for methadone treatment, and the interaction of national and New York City politics surrounding substance abuse treatment. He recalls his convictions as a board member of Phoenix House. Finally, Kleber discusses the future of narcotics treatment, which, he asserts, will largely depend on the funding structure