Document, 1794 September 13

Title
Document, 1794 September 13
Library Location
National Archives and Records Administration
Name
Jay, John, 1745-1829 (Author)
Randolph, Edmund, 1753-1813 (Addressee)
Format
correspondence
Digital Project
Papers of John Jay
Date
1794 September 13
Physical Description
12
Subjects
United States--History--Revolution, 1775-1783; Jay, John, 1745-1829
Summary
Discusses progress of negotiations with Grenville. 1) what constituted first breach of Treaty. Discussions on "carrying away of Negroes contrary to the 7th article of the treaty..." British view of legality of these evacuations. Discussions of evacuation of posts--British feel that no charge of breach of faith may be leveled against them for non-evacuation as, in their eyes, orders for such evacuation could not reach Quebec with legal force before July, 1794 by which time Americans had broken Treaty. John Jay admits that Grenville's arguments on these matters have impressed him and done much to alter his views. Became obvious that matter of first violator of Treaty was a fruitless point to argue. Then, Grenville and Jay proceeded to seek a set of reciprocal concessions which might settle outstanding disputes. Jay settled on certain points for discussion which he outlined in note to Grenville of 6 August (here forwarded to Randolph). From 6-30 August, nothing of importance discussed. On that date, Grenville sent John Jay letter and two drafts of Treaties. (Grenville to John Jay 30 August 1794), here forwarded to Randolph. Jay answered this in letter to Grenville of 1 September (here forwarded). Jay felt that proposed alterations of U.S. boundary in 30 August draft treaty demanded immediate comment which he offered Grenville in letter of 4 September. Grenville replied to this by his note to Jay of 5 September, with enclosed observations. (Here forwards letters of 4 and 5 September.) Jay prepared notes for meeting with Grenville of 6 September (here forwarded). On 6 September, Jay and Grenville conferred; Jay feels that Grenville and Cabinet really want a settlement. On September 8, Grenville writes Jay (here forwarded) with "observations." This is last communication dealing with Treaty negotiations. Jay now turns to subject of appeals and claims in cases of capture and transmits letter of Sir William Scott to Jay, 10 September with enclosure. Jay thinks that these last should be printed in a pamphlet.
Identifier
columbia.jay.04312