doi:10.7916/d8-p783-w660Oral history interview with Alan Hartley and Joellen Hartley 1985Hartley, Alanoral historiessound recordingssound recording - nonmusicalWomen psychologistsPsychologistsOlder people--EducationAbility, Influence of age onEducation--ResearchEndowment of researchHartley, AlanHartley, JoellenSpencer FoundationDescription of earlier research on the elderly and problem-solving; Spencer funded project measuring older adults' capability at learning to use computers; unique advantages of Spencer Foundation funding; problem of dissemination of findings.