SIDE A: Early interest in art and artists; family: work with Bureau of Indian Affairs, life on reservations; grandmother: early experiences with pottery; attending College of Santa Fe: interest in arts; first work with pottery; family life; education in art; relationship to other artists; work with materials: painting, drawing, clay; role models: grandmother; reflections on career path; competition in the art world; reflections on English degree; involvement in artistic organizations; administration work; critical reflections on work; gatekeepers in career; major turning points in career; teaching on reservation: Head Start; Tough Cachina series; relationship to money throughout career; effect of marketplace on art world: competition between older and younger artists; awards in career: certificate of recognition for teaching pottery. SIDE B: Interaction with the public; critical review of work; reflections on success in career; themes throughout career; greatest satisfactions and disappointments in career; effect of marketplace on work; advice for young artists; wife's work as photographer; life in Albuquerque versus life on the reservation.